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John Troll the 3rd

More wonderful news from that miracle economy the UK everyone here keeps telling us argies about.

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Stevie

Briton I'm sure we could have much more interesting conversations should we meet under other circumstances. It is sad to hear constant bashing of the ones you care for, and personally, it is indeed a...

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briton

just goes to show adults can talk..

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redpoll

An interesting debate for a change without the usual shit slinging in spite of Mr Thinks effort to turn it into the usual diatribe As a food producer I am interested in the different views which I...

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briton

you mean like electric , gas , and water, the companies get richer and the people get ever higher bills, and the goverment says, we can do nothing, same all over the world then..

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Stevie

Briton Glad we agree. Hold on to that idea and project it to every resource on the planet, because at this pace, we'll soon be rationing potable water. And making profit of the lucky ones.

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briton

well something will have to be done, before it all goes west, fish farms may well help, not the total cure, but help it will, as for anbar,,,,,,,,,,,,,, perhaps he just misunderstands the meaning of...

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Doveoverdover

@37 You really shouldn't encourage @36 with the courtesy of a reply. He is as thick and obnoxious as pig manure and just about as useful. I'll say one thing for him though, he does tend to sign off his...

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Stevie

36 You obviously don't know what a fish farm is, do you, Anbar?

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Anbar

...because, as we all know, fish respect international boundaries and only feed, swim & reproduce within defined international waters. (what an idiot)

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Stevie

34 Fish farms is an excellent idea. One should be allowed to fish a sustainable quantity and everything above that, should come from a farm of the such you mention. Only local fishermen knows the...

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briton

we need more control, but fair, local fish stocks must be protected, and internatianal waters must be protected also, perhaps some kind of fish farms to help, after all if no control is apparent and we...

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Stevie

So Briton, you do agree with me that the market should be [more] controlled and we should aim for local production? The Japanese are outfishing the Spaniards in their waters. Just have a look at the...

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briton

They are greedy, But this fishing policy does not help us in any way. And it does not help when they are allowed to dock at out ports to sell us our own fish, We need a proper policy to protect not...

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Shed-time

@30 There will be no fish left. The spanish get paid not to fish, and then go fishing. That's hardly doing a lot for our fish stocks.

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briton

when we remove ourselves from the EU , the fishing will be brought back under british control, and the big spannish fishing fleets and others will have to fish elswhere, sounds a bit fish, but there ya...

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Stevie

Ok Shed-time. Night night now.

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Shed-time

@27 You're a big crying girl who was too badly educated to attend a real university with a union society of high debating credentials. That's fine, we understand. Instead you have to resort to not...

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Stevie

Not at all Shed-time. I even feel sympathy for you. Lets continue tomorrow. I promise not to hold any grudge against you.

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Shed-time

@25 No, you're just upset like a big girl, simply because your arguments make no sense. I'm not sure which union society you weren't a member of, but it shows. EOM

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Stevie

Shed-time My response was to slattzzz. As you obviously don't know how to act as a normal human being when presenting your arguments, I will treat you like the child you behave like. Tomorrow we'll...

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Shed-time

@23 Which system? You mean the free-market system, that opposes the planned economy system? Well, we could try planned economies like 1950s USSR and China, modern North Korea and Argentina.. but look...

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Stevie

You are the ones defending the system that makes all that possible. The first thing I said was that local production was crucial. So get a frip FFS in your own little glass house. And all that.

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Shed-time

@20 Thanks. The fact is though, you don't seem to understand the fundamentals of what you are saying. Blaming free markets for a country's demise is just utter nonsense.

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slattzzz

@20 says you who's so called country purposely overfishes the south atlantic and encourages other SA countries to do the same, catching Ilex squid before they are at the required size and before they...

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Stevie

Warmonkey "On a smaller scale fishermen in the UK are being contracted by recycling companies to trawl for waste when they are unable to trawl for fish." That very sentence implies something is very,...

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briton

Britain should be , and can be independent of the greedy incompetent European fools, It only takes investment, [money] And we have billions and billion of it, Lovely money, billions of the stuff, SADLY...

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Shed-time

@14 seriously, one tries to have a normal conversation with an argentine and their education just fails them. The opposite of a free-market economy is a planned economy, so yes, it has everything to do...

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slattzzz

old news now http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22045938

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War Monkey

@14 Stevie (#) Apr 06th, 2013 - 04:47 pm Already there is a fast growing recycling industry and it is getting bigger and more clever every day. Eventually they will recycle everything and this is where...

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Think

Mr. McDod….. Reading comment (8) from Young English Turnip Mr. Greek Yogurt, I would suggest you to sell the Discovery and settle for a more subdued, classical piece of……….........................…....

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Stevie

Shed-time Little does it matter what you produce, when it's the same raw material you use to produce it. You are talking as if we had an unlimited amount of different raw materials now, and we don't....

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Shed-time

@12 yes. @11 When companies die, new companies replace them. That's how it works. We're not all investing in massively overgrown pottery companies from the 1800's and we're not buying CDs any more, so...

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Anbar

It was ThinkDover's shift overnight then? *yawn*

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Stevie

10 Here is where our ideological differenced kicks in. Constant and eternal growth is not possible, as ultimately, all raw materials come from a not eternal and very limited earth. You wish to feed the...

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Shed-time

@9 It's got nothing to do with the markets. Blaming neo-liberalism or any other market determinant isn't going to make an ounce of difference. It's ultimately about your country being effective and...

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Stevie

Shed-time I fully agree with you on that statement. Disregarding our ideological differences, one can not deny that this circus of loaning more and more money to pay for the currrent lifestyle, will...

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Shed-time

I don't really understand this assumption that all pensioners (doctors, judges, etc) and unemployed people worked really hard and all that, when we're basically stealing from 2 generations down in...

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Doveoverdover

@6 The growth in government expenditure (including debt repayments and debt interest payments) exceeds the growth in government income that would come about from the predicted growth rates. We need a...

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Teaboy2

How does it continue to look negative when were in growth and its expected to be 1.6% growth per year for the next few years? Only negative i see are all the dam cuts! Though the reduction in company...

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Doveoverdover

@3 My point entirely and where better to look first than to UK sovereign territory both distanced and exempt from the European malaise and full of unearned wealth? I have in mind the Virgin Islands and...

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agent999

@3 unfortunately, most of us live near something we don't like.

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Britworker

@2 Yes, get the tracking going so long is you don't live where it's being done. Our problem is that our biggest export market, the EU, is a basket case. We need to be less reliant on Europe for trade....

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agent999

good idea get that fracking going

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Doveoverdover

The UK Government should not just focus on austerity, particularly not if it affects pensioners who worked for so long and deserve every penny they get from the current working population, they should...

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